Embryonic Stem Cell Research

When I was in 8th grade (which was like 6 years ago... holy cow!) I did a presentation/debate on the ethics of using embryonic stem cells for research. At the time I wasn't a diabetic, but I did use the story of a five year old girl with diabetes to support my side of the argument. Her dad was a big advocate for stem cell research so that one day his daughter might have a cure. He made some really good points and after doing a BUNCH of research on stem cells and the cures it could yield (not just diabetes), I decided I would like to promote stem cell research.

I've always wanted to do something with stem cell research and now that I have diabetes, it's an even bigger push. I'm just wondering what other diabetics views of research with embryonic stem cells are. Are you for or against?

I'm for whatever helps cure disease. It's the whole scientific/medical progress versus ethics and morals and stirs up controversy every time. If it cures us, or other Type 1 generations to follow us, I'm all for it. Even if it helps us develop better treatments and not necessarily a cure, I think it's a positive.

We'll see what progress is made with the current Administration. *fingers crossed*

i'm all for it. i'll totally give up my kid's cord at birth to go to the cause. in a heartbeat. like you said, it's not just a possible cure for us but worse conditions as well. who wouldn't wanna be able to say they did their part to help it become a reality??

You know... its interesting that you would post this, because just last night and this morning the thought had crossed my mind. It is a HUGE ethical debate among the American population on whether or not stem cell research is bad, and I would venture to guess, that the MAJORITY (not all) of people who are against this radical form of research are those without the disabilities which it could cure.

I have been a Type 1 Diabetic since the age of four, and I am now twenty five years old. I have researched this debate, and have found that the "benefits" of stem cell transplantation are so amazingly vast that its difficult to be charted, and often isnt charted simply because of the ethical dilemma. I will say for my part, as a woman, asw a Christian and as a juvenile diabetic, that I am absolutly for stem cell research. I think that it is a valuable method that could cure so many of our dibelitating diseases and disorders. I DO NOT think that it should be used on just anybody. I look in cases of type 1 diabetics with children/teenagers who would look at the stem cell research as being a "quick fix" or an "insta-cure" when they don't actually weigh or think about the pros and cons of this research, its just a simple "cure-all" and should not be used in these situations.

Anyone who will be eligible for transplantation should not only be completely aware of the disorder that they have, but should also have the responsibility as humans in order to take care of themselves. For example, say you have two boys with juvenile diabetes who are 18 years old. One of them monitors his bloodsugar, monitors his calories and carbs, exercises and understands about his diabetes and if he experiences a hypo or hyper-glycemic shock, he knows what those causes may have been. If the other boy does not monitor his bloodsugar, does not watch his diet, does not understand anything about why he is differenet or even care much that he is, which of those two do you think would be better suited for stem cell transplantation?

People have explained this scenario to me many times over the years, and I always give the same response, the first boy. When asked why, challenge yourself to think of why you made that choice.. I say that its because the first boy has a vested interest in his lifelong health, and will most likely take better care of himself over the years of his life than the second, who will return to doing the same activities most likely, or be relieved at the fact that he is no longer different, rather than look at what it took in order to make him that way.

Sorry about my ramblings, I just do not think that stem cell research should be just a cure all to anyone with any disability, although it should certainly be utilized for research and curing diseases such as juvenile diabetes.

 

Lol.. just realized how much I actually typed... oh well

I agree with Celtic that there should be a selection process but I think it would be great one day to say that we CAN cure things lifelong disabilities. But I also think of it like legalizing abortion..it's there if you need it..but it shouldn't be something you rely on or expect to receive.

Batts, the only problem with an umbilical cord is that it can only really be used for your own child. I don't really know about research they've been doing with umbilical cords, but I do know that they have programs where you can store your child's umbilical cord and if they need it in the future, they can use it.

Celticbrighteyes... I agree with you. When I think about this issue, I think about the embryos that are being sacrificed to give us this cure. The big ethical debate is whether these embryos are developing humans. Scientists are only allowed to use embryos that have been donated to them because they would otherwise be thrown away.

If you were one of those embryos that was going to die, either by being thrown away or by being harvested for research... wouldn't you want to do what you could for the world and potentially save many people's lives or improve the quality of their lives? And that's where I think your opinion comes into play. I wouldn't want to give up my life for someone who wouldn't appreciate it. I had never really thought about that before... Thanks for that. Great insight.

i thought the cords could be used for research in general? it was a while ago i read about the cord, so i might have just forgotten in the meantime :)

I am all for stem cell research.  It has the potential to solve a large number of health problems.  I can also see how interesting legal and philosophical issues could arise as the technology is developed (you get a stem cell transplant, a family finds out some of the cells were donated from a family member, you die, does this family have any claim to "inheritance" since you share DNA...hope that's not riddled with inaccuracies).  In terms of a selection process, I would only want to make sure an individual is a good candidate for the procedure (high chance of success, safe procedure).  Otherwise we risk bringing the blame game into the picture, when the goal is to cure and raise quality of life.

I think the "when does it become human/alive" debate is largely nonprofessional now.  I've heard a lot of professional ethicists/bioethicists agree that a human is being killed in an abortion procedure, and that the debate is now over quality of life (the mother's, the child's, what is the overall best decision to be made in their best interest).  I saw a few interviews about abortion a while back...the only name I can remember with any degree of certainty is Steven Pinker (although I could be wrong).

Well, it looks like I'm the minority here. I am against embryonic stem cell research. I'm not going to state my reasons why, because I don't want to get into a huge debate about it. I do, however, support adult stem cell research.

If stem cell research can cure chronic diseases such as diabetes, I fully support it provided life isn't taken for the express purpose of harvesting stem cells.  We transplant organs routinely, so the concept of recycling is familiar to doctors already and ethical guidelines already exist.

 

I will go a step further and say that cures such as this should be shared with the world.  To have the ability to save millions of people, and choose to not do so if they are too poor, would be a tragedy.

 

 

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Well, it looks like I'm the minority here. I am against embryonic stem cell research. I'm not going to state my reasons why, because I don't want to get into a huge debate about it. I do, however, support adult stem cell research.

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Glad you were too young to vote in 08. (: lol. Sorry, I'm being mean. But, this is a very personal and charged issue for me like everyone here. There are definitely Republicans who support it, such as Nancy Reagan due to her husband's fight with Alzheimer's, so I wish people wouldn't think they HAVE to follow their party's beliefs on everything if it goes against moral and ethical considerations. I think that people who are against it are being unethical --- think about all the people in this world who are suffering who could potentially be helped. AHG! I'm getting all worked up and I always try to be kind and supportive on here as everyone has been to me, so I'm going to sign off now before I say something I regret...

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Well, it looks like I'm the minority here. I am against embryonic stem cell research. I'm not going to state my reasons why, because I don't want to get into a huge debate about it. I do, however, support adult stem cell research.

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Glad you were too young to vote in 08. (: lol. Sorry, I'm being mean. But, this is a very personal and charged issue for me like everyone here. There are definitely Republicans who support it, such as Nancy Reagan due to her husband's fight with Alzheimer's, so I wish people wouldn't think they HAVE to follow their party's beliefs on everything if it goes against moral and ethical considerations. I think that people who are against it are being unethical --- think about all the people in this world who are suffering who could potentially be helped. AHG! I'm getting all worked up and I always try to be kind and supportive on here as everyone has been to me, so I'm going to sign off now before I say something I regret...

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It has nothing to do with having to follow a party's beliefs. I haven't even decided what party I am- I'm pretty much in the middle when it comes to politics. This is just a personal belief that has nothing to do with being a Republican or Democrat. It's just how I feel.

I support embryonic stem cell research done on embryos harvested in IVF clinics that would otherwise be discarded.  I don't see any kind of ethical dilemma there so I'm all for it.  Sure it hasn't produced any actual results, but we should be pursuing all possible options to relieve the plights of our fellow citizens.

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If you were one of those embryos that was going to die, either by being thrown away or by being harvested for research... wouldn't you want to do what you could for the world and potentially save many people's lives or improve the quality of their lives? And that's where I think your opinion comes into play. I wouldn't want to give up my life for someone who wouldn't appreciate it. I had never really thought about that before... Thanks for that. Great insight.

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i'm sorry..but the embryo has NO idea what is happening to them. and if you were an embryo..you wouldn't know you were giving up a possible life for someone else..whether or not they deserved it. you wouldn't know shit about what's going on.

 

just had to get that off my chest.

I was just saying hypothetically if the embryo could think. I believe in an after life and so if the embryo was "human" then I believe they would be able to think and have opinions.

And both Sarahs... thank you for your opinions. That's what I wanted to see. I was for embryonic stem cell research before, but diabetes reinforced that. I was wondering how other diabetics feel about it.

Ideen... I agree with you. I believe that scientists in the US. have a few lines of stem cells they can use but they can also use embryos that have been donated from IVF clinics (from the parents who no longer need the embryos and would otherwise discard them). That is the only way they can obtain new embryos... by donation. But, I haven't been following this lately, so maybe things have changed?

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I was just saying hypothetically if the embryo could think. I believe in an after life and so if the embryo was "human" then I believe they would be able to think and have opinions.

 

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embryos have nothing to do with believing in a after life. at the embryo stage the brain and other organs are JUST starting to be developed. there's NO way the brain would develop enough to focus on something other than keep itself alive, if it's thinking at all. it's not gonna go "hmm i wonder if mama and dada will let me stay alive or get rid of me with a coat hanger so i can be used for stem cell research. i would only want them to be worthy..cuz i really wanna go to that dance next week!" gimme a break.

not to mention that the Embilical Cord has tons of stem cells in it as well.

I support embryonic stem cell research. These are embryos that would be discarded if they were not being used for research.

"it's times like these that I wish they'd used me for stem cell research..."