Injection?

Ok I read giving a injection into a vein is bad. Sometimes tho mostly when I give a injection into Riley's thigh when I pull out the needle it bleeds a good sized drop am I messing up? I think they are almost impossible to avoid but if there is a trick or something I dont know about please share.

Also are there times it seems like you have to force the injection in not the actual needle but the insulin? It was really hard to push. I almost thought I would have to take it out and do it again in a different spot.

 

So share are these things normal or do I just totally suck at giving injections? I feel like I might be totally screwing her up and it scares me just a little ok a lot.

Ok I googled long enough and found my answers. I wasnt finding what I was looking for at first so I came here. Of course after posting I googled more while I was waiting and found my answers.

unless you push it into her jugular, you really can't screw up an injection all that much. she will tell you if it hurts or if it's not a good spot. trust your daughter's input :o)

Well she says ouch just about every time I give her one. I am not sure if I am really hurting her or if she does it just to make me feel guilty. lol as she reads over my shoulder she says its not to make me feel guilty but because they really hurt. I think part of it is I do the morning injections and they are almost a full 30 units and the hubby gets the baby ones at night with around 10 units all together. Or I just totally suck at giving them. I have told her if I am really that bad she can feel free to do it herself instead but she isnt ready for that. Now she says its how I pull them out I dont pull it out straight enough for her.  Or maybe I just suck at them. I will try and lol at her sitting here telling me all of this as I type with blurry eyes.

hey, jessica. don't take it too hard. it took me 3 years before i did my first shot, and of course i always told my parents they were hurting me, even if they weren't. there was a part of me that hoped if i said it enough they would just stop. my parents took baby steps to start having me do my own shots. they started by having me pick then spot, then i would pinch the skin for them. after i was used to that, i would start pushing the plunger down, and then i would start taking them out. eventually, the only thing left for me to do was actually stick it in myself.

kids can be cruel to their parents, especially when they are angry or hurting themselves. many parents of young t1ds have been in a similar spot to you. if it really starts to bother you, you can always try sitting your daughter down and talking to her. telling her how you feel and why it hurts you. she will understand (even if she says she doesn't). no kid wants shots and no parent wants to have to give them. it will get easier for you and your daughter. she is not quite ready for the complete responsibility of doing her own shots. if you work with her and very gently push her in that direction (it may be a long process), she will warm up to the idea and be ready for it.

keep your chin up! it's all still very new for you and your family.

Thanks C that helps a lot. She does pick her sites and will pinch before I pinch. I have ofered for her to push it in herself after I get the needle in her but she isnt ready for that part either. I just offer for her too not pushing her to do it. It makes since about her being hurt and angry and if she complains enough maybe I will stop. I will suck it up for now. I dont want to make her feel guilty for making me feel guilty on top of what she is already feeling.

Its funny but not because it already doesnt feel new day to day. I guess I have to step back and remember its hasnt even been 2 months yet.

There are tiny blood vessels that I personally hit from time to time, and it actually doesn't hurt. I'm always surprised to see gushing blood. It only hurts for me if it's a big one. Hope that helps!

it for me has not been more than a finger poke drop amount of blood. My hubby got her good once and it bruised after. So I am sure its not more than a tiny vessel but if she sees the blood she thinks I have killed her.

ha. she'll have to get over the blood part. bruising was always pretty common for me, as well as a little blood. you are, after all, poking a needle through the skin. a little blood should be expected. she'll get better at it :o)

lol I should think so. I am a wuss with blood but I swear I dont react to it even when I feel it in my gut. She would half hyperventilates and has a look of dread on her face. Like I just stabbed her with a butchers knife. Now its more a worried pissed look. So I guess its a improvement already.

If you inject directly into a vein the BG will start to drop in a few minutes and peak in about 1.5 hours. It can be a shock when it happens. Many CDEs train the injector (D or Parent) to pull back a little on the syringe to look for blood.

Today, with the small short needles, it is not likely that you will inject directly in to the blood. 

If you do, and the BG starts dropping fast, you can use fruit juice to cover the carbs. The I:C and mLg drop per unit of insulin is about the same as a subcutaneous injection. 

If you pull a syringe and get blood, just pull it out and pick another site and dose normally. 

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lol I should think so. I am a wuss with blood but I swear I dont react to it even when I feel it in my gut. She would half hyperventilates and has a look of dread on her face. Like I just stabbed her with a butchers knife. Now its more a worried pissed look. So I guess its a improvement already.

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lol I should think so. I am a wuss with blood but I swear I dont react to it even when I feel it in my gut. She would half hyperventilates and has a look of dread on her face. Like I just stabbed her with a butchers knife. Now its more a worried pissed look. So I guess its a improvement already.

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Jessica - When i was little i remember always yelling at my mom that she was "leaving the needle in too long" she would say its out its out! .. what i was upset about was that little pinch after the needle... please dont beat yourself up i know its hard not to but in the end its a kid getting a shot i dont think any of them take it well... another thing.. to this day i swaer when other people give me shots it hurts me, when i would go to the doc throughout my life and need a shot i ask if i can do it myself.. I dont know what it is.. my boyfriend now gives them to me sometimes (not for any particular reason) and it pinches when he does it.. i think whenever she is ready to do her own shots it will feel better after a while.. or maybe its just me lol

No I think you are right. She already thinks they hurt less if she looks.

I had another fail tonight but it didnt hurt her because of it it caused leak back. I went to pull it out faster than normal and forgot to wait the 5 seconds for it to absorb duh me but oh well next time I will wait and pull it out a little faster for her.

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I had another fail tonight but it didnt hurt her because of it it caused leak back. I went to pull it out faster than normal and forgot to wait the 5 seconds for it to absorb duh me but oh well next time I will wait and pull it out a little faster for her.

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I have "leakage" sometimes (this sounds very X-rated, sorry) and freak out every time, but it never makes me high. A dr. once told me when it leaks out a bit, it's actually much less than it looks like.

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So I am sure its not more than a tiny vessel but if she sees the blood she thinks I have killed her.

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Ha, ha! Wait until you tell her she has to be home by 11 pm in high school. Then, she'll really think you killed her. You can remind her that at least you aren't stabbing her w/ a needle. I'm one of three sisters and I think girls are very hard on their mothers. My Mom was so happy to find out when I got pregnant so that I can suffer myself now. (;

lol yeah I am the oldest of 3 girls and my poor parents is all I have to say. She has started puberty already too poor girl and while no periods yet oi the emotions are still coming into play blood sugar highs or not. I think that might have a lot to do with it as well.

Blech ... puberty and blood sugars. I just replied to katiesmom re my puberty troubles so I won't repeat them again...

http://juvenation.org/forums/t/5316.aspx

I'm the oldest of 3 daughters too. (: Poor Dad!

yeah once we hit that age it was poor dad before that we were all tomboys and hung out with him. Going to go read that thread now.

we only used syringes for a few weeks then switched to pens. our son thought they hurt a lot less (the needle is smaller too) and i find them much easier to give. but even with the pens he always found the NPH to hurt and he was only getting 6.5 units! (he's 5 and we use lantus instead of NPH now). Our theory is that the NPH is cloudy and therefore likely thicker so maybe he can feel it going in more. Still there are times when a shot will really seem to hurt and i don't do anything different. we occassionally have a drop of blood and have had bruising occassionally too. and that is with the very small 5mm pen needle.

When I was on injections I would bleed from time to time (I usually used my thigh), leak insulin occasionally (I don't remember the 5second rule), and sometimes it would hurt (LIKE CRAZY!) and sometimes it wouldn't. 

When I gave myself shots I was NEVER a stabber.  I always inserted the needle slowly to find just the right spot with no nerve endings!  Then I would insert slow. However, when someone else gave me the shot I always made them stab.  Also, we NEVER pulled back (Are you kidding?  And suck up some tissue? I know that wouldn't happen, but that is what I always imagined!)

Also, larger injection quantities always hurt more.  Probably because it displaces more tissue.